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The transcription box has got a summarise button which doesn't do anything yet. Now I wonder how we want to do, you know, we want a pop-up window with the speaker characterisation. Either we could do that, you know, when does the pop-up come? Either we can, when you click on the ID, any sort of ID in the transcription box, or we can put an extra button, extra few buttons next to the summarize button so that you... actually in the transcription box but so you click on a button and then the oops and whatever that speaker characterisation is. The problem is the left click is already used because it highlights that that part of speech or whatever that what he's been saying the left click or the right click the left click highlights it right so that you can i don't know what happens when you double click actually but that'd be a bit annoying if you have left click for one thing and double click for something I think so yeah when you left click it you can for example set set the marker there so that the audio goes from there I think and so we can't put it on left click we could put it on the right click We could, for example, have a little menu that pops up. Yeah, that might be quite good, I suppose. So right-click on it, menu, you know, and you can click on speaker characterisation, and it pops in there. What else could we have in there? Menu. That's a good point. I don't know. Otherwise we just have a right-click or two. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know about you, but usually in Windows, right-click doesn't do anything, does it? It opens a menu. A menu, yeah. Yeah, that's what it does. Yes, it would be a bit weird. just start bringing up stuff in it. To just have the same sort of idiom throughout. Yeah. Or just, you know, or just a button. I guess a button makes a bit more sense because otherwise you don't really know that oh, what if I right click now? What happens then? Well, no, no. It's visual. The menu pop up that. Well, oh, yeah. It's more obvious, isn't it? It's more idiot proof. isn't it? It's got a button. Yeah, that's true. It's more intuitive. Do you want to add more things in the future? I don't know. Maybe. I guess in meeting browser 1.1 you can have a menu instead of a button. Actually, what we could do is in that menu as well we could have an option that pops up window with all the all the meetings that that user has been in like a search for that user yeah I guess so so what did you part of the menu that comes down it says give me all your meetings yeah so when you right-click on it one one option will be give me all your meetings characterizes speaker yeah Or is that too much? I guess so. It's more like part of the browsing sort of thing, more than the speaker character. characterization, as Steve mentioned, I don't really know how to involve the speaker characters. Yeah, that's true. It would be nice to have it interconnected. Yeah, maybe tie that in with Dialog Acts or something as well. I mean speaker characterization tied into, I don't know, just some way to sort of leverage that information. Like we have it, we're doing it, but how does it help the browsing? Or what can it give us in the browsing? Well, you mean the speaker characterization? Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I don't know about that. I mean, the speaker characterisation is a bit like you said. It's like a nice thing. We're not actually sure what the user wants with it, but it's interesting, so why not give it to him? Yeah, yeah. I think we should do it. I mean, I guess maybe we could have that as another thing of, like, well, if you get to speak a characterization that someone talks a lot in a certain topic, and then if you, I don't know, click on that topic, you get everything that's in that topic or whatever. Yeah, I mean, that's... That's still another level further. I mean, we're not even there yet. No, It doesn't pop up the speaker characterization yet. We have to first define what happens when you click on a user. We have to have a speaker characterization first before we cross over the other. So should we try to do a right-click menu then? Yeah, alright. Is that just from the main? Even if any one thing comes up. Is that from any particular window? Like if we want to sort of get, like if we're on the users versus like a topic or something, have a right click for these various things? Yes. Wait, yeah, there's a second thing about the topic. the topic window where you want to somehow click be able to click on a topic and it pops up with all the meetings that contain that right yeah yeah so we could do that in a similar way to it right as well okay so this does consistent throughout. Yeah. On the speaker. So we have basically two options of browsing the meetings, is by either searching and opening individual observations, and then we have the interlinking by right click basically. Right. Actually, yeah, like another common thing, like if we have it so it's set up that if you double click and it goes to a default thing on the menu, I mean that's kind of a typical. kind of action if you double click on a particular topic or something then it goes to sort of like a default so it'll be like all the um cases of that topic either whatever we decide the default to be whether it's in all meetings or just in one meeting and just show up the particular instances of that topic in the meeting like and just think to have the default there so if somebody knows exactly what they want to do and we know that that's the most common thing that's going to happen so the double click won't do that and just save them the trouble of right clicking and choosing the item on the menu. I didn't see there was anything above. obvious that would be able to... It might come to us. What was that? I didn't quite understand. We have the right click menu, but instead of... Have a default double click. So it will be a choice. What's the most common use to double click? Like show the speaker characterisation. Then there's the problem with a lot of windows popping up again. And they pop up without you being quite sure what it is you know what I mean But if you do double click on something, don't you expect something to happen? Sometimes you do it by accident. Go away Stop coming up Then you close it. It's not the end of the world. Especially if you have a touch pad. She goes, oh I'll check what it does on double click at the moment. Because I think it might do something. I really don't see anything obvious. I mean if you can think of something. I guess it depends on what you're clicking on. Yeah, another thing... Single audio files, do we want to use them or not? We don't know yet, do we? Do you mean single channel? Yeah, single channel files. Do we want them? Probably not, but we might need them for the fluencies. If we try to do it in audio. We might use them in the world to work with. with them but do we want to integrate them so that when you browse you can we might want to be able to say oh just give me what that person saying unless you can't hear it probably or something somebody's talking over somebody else we're just saying note for now and put it in Yeah, because otherwise it will increase the amount of data we need by a lot, won't it? Yeah. The footprint will be bigger. Yeah, what do people think in general about the Windows cluttering that you mentioned? Do you think it's really bad? I think we probably need that, though, to have the full flexibility we need to have that. That's what I feel as well. I mean, I'm very much, I want to have everything customizable. The thing is typically though is someone going to have five windows open at the same time, probably not. Probably not, no. Two or three of whatever they're looking at like dialogue acts. But yeah, it depends. I mean I really want to put the summary in somewhere, you know. In the summary, for example, it's typical. You open the window, you read through it, you might close it again straight away. But it would be good to have it there. I think it's fine. Well, couldn't we? I mean, you probably, I don't know if you want to have the full transcription and the summary at the same time. So maybe you can just choose the same window for transcription and summary. It's like have a tab there. I was just going to say tab. Yeah. Tabs are nice. Yeah, it's up to you. good zilla style yeah that's right i'm not sure yeah i don't know does anybody know how to do that can you do that i don't think java knows how to do that really maybe you probably can i'm sure i'm sure you can do anything if you really knew what you're doing but i don't know it's a bit of a cripple java's windowing toolkit the eight is sometimes it's a bit of a cripple i can have a look yeah yeah or just i don't know but yeah that might be changed to Thank you. contents of the same window. Yeah, yeah. Like from transcription to summary. Yeah. Yeah, or even just have buttons on it. Toggle buttons or something on the toolbar. That window. Hmm. That's something. Yeah, yeah, that could be a problem. It doesn't have to be a tab or whatever. No, no, it could be like transcription summary, like two letters and you just press on whichever. Or check marks, you can have two of them. That would reduce the number of windows you need to do, which is quite good. Otherwise, Photoshop has a lot of windows. If you ever use Photoshop, it's got loads and you're always forever going, oh, get out of the way. There's always stuff in the way. I don't know how many people get used to it. I mean, when you use Windows or Linux for that matter, you have a lot of windows open. You do, yeah. You manage them. Yeah. Yeah Let's Kenny I suppose you can minimize them and stuff like that. Yeah, you can minimize. Can you do that? Yeah. Yeah Of course you can like a lot of these can be like once we get the disfluencies out then we can you know transcript with the Disfluency transcript, with the Disfluency transcript. Yeah, that's true. Have all these sort of using the same window. Yeah, they're definitely going to be in the same window, yeah. And probably mutually... Yeah, that was the plan for the Disfluencies anyway. So, yeah, do you want to do that with summaries then? Put the summaries in the same window? Yeah, well, I don't know. With transcripts, it sounds reasonable to have transcripts, like maybe three alternatives then, like full meeting, meeting without influences, and summarize. Yeah, do you want to do that? That kind of makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, sounds good. And finally, the prototype you spoke about. What kind of prototype could we produce? What kind of prototype? Because I'm just, you know, I go into the lab and I say, what am I going to change today, you know? And it kind of just develops. I'm not aiming for anything. Do we want to aim for something? I'm pretty much getting there anyway, to be honest. It's not going to be a lot more work. I guess it is. I mean, just to try and... I mean, for us to be able to do something that we can include with your thing. Yeah, that's what we need. Something just slightly more than just that on its own. Yeah. Just so you see the integration works sort of between the different companies. Yeah, definitely. So I guess that's what we need to inform. That's kind of what he meant as well, seeing it sort of start to do stuff rather than just be a prototype of the GUI. Yeah, well I guess, I mean that was probably our intention but we might not have written it down. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Actually, is the code accessible? Like the... Actually, is the code accessible? The GUI stuff that you've done, can we just copy the latest stuff out of your directory? Like if we're going to just try and take a look or something. I don't know, can we access other people's? If you make it world readable, then anybody can access it. If you just tell us the directory and just make the file readable, then we know the directory to get in. Yeah, sure. I don't know if it's readable at the moment, but you can show how to load it. I think by default they are. No, they're not world readable, they're not done by default. They're only default, then only you can read them. You can see them. but you can't read them. Okay. Right, well I'll make that readable then. Okay. Yeah. So the directory is my number. Or you could just email to us. Okay, yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, this is not difficult. Right. What's your number? Okay. It's in all the emails. Yeah. Okay. Your number. 0-04-0555. Okay. 0-04-0555. Okay. you 60. Say that again. 04. 0455560. And then it's... And then there's a folder, NLSSD. NLSSD. And it's called the Mbrowser. The Mbrowser. I hope you never have to look in my directory, it's just pure chaos. I'm extremely old then, I've got folders and everything, I love folders. Mine is serious chaos. So that's me done. Someone else want to talk about their stuff? Final jump at once. I can tell you what I've done in SP2. I don't know. I basically started browsing a bit, just trying to see if there's anything out there to use. What were you doing again? Oh, yeah. Yeah, a little file stuff and the next search query and all that. Okay. Found a tutorial that inverted search indexing, but I haven't read it yet. So you could probably just use that code. Like, that was behind the question she asked him earlier. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're using code and stuff. stuff and just like, okay. Oh right. And that's pretty much there, is it? You found some code for it? Yeah, well I don't know if it's usable, I haven't looked at it, but I found some code for like, from a tutorial about indexing. Oh right. Cool, cool. So even if it doesn't work you can jiggery poke it around and make it work. Yeah. We'll probably still have to do some other file management. Yeah, yeah. Messing around with some nonsense. Yeah, those are some nonsense. But yeah, the basics is, okay, that's good. Yeah, that's handy. Yeah. So you think it shouldn't be too difficult? I don't know. I was a bit worried about when, well, when you talked about this with the file, messing around with files. I mean, how much do we actually need to do, like extracting things from the... Yeah. from the end XML files and stuff to be able to do the indexing. Oh, I see. Yeah. You'll have to convert it to some sort of format, I suppose. Yeah. I've been trying to write something to read the XML and get rid of it. And I can get rid of it, but I'm having trouble putting it anywhere else. So it'll come up on the screen. But at the moment, I haven't managed to put it into a vector or whatever in Java to play with it. Are you writing in Java? Yeah. Okay. I mean you should have a look at the browser code then because they already extract for example transcripts. Yeah, I'm sure they do. Yeah. Transcripted. Yeah. Oh yeah, I will. I'm sure it's not that difficult. I'm sure I'm making a mail a bit at the moment actually. Yeah, I guess, I mean, it was a good point you had, that like collaborating with Fowl things, I mean if you already started on doing this stuff, I guess we can... We should share as much as possible. Libraries. Yeah. Should we, I don't know... meet up and see what we can do. I mean, I don't know, see what you've done and see what we need, what we know more of, what we need maybe. Next week sometime. Yeah, next week. I actually haven't done anything this week because this week's been... manic. Yes, exactly. What do you mean? This week's only two days old. Well, whatever it was last week. Oh, last week. The week as is rather than the proper week, do you know what I mean? It's been all a bit manic. Well, you're an SP and LP and SP too, right? That's right. Yeah, that's right. And then we had to do an IRP, whatever it was last week as well, which is only a page long, but it's quite difficult to write a page. Yeah, oh yeah. That was completely rubbish. It was, it wasn't fun, but it was. I had to sit there and think about it for a bit, which was a bit irritating. Yeah, but SPNLP, ugh. Yeah, that's fun. 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This is just when you open, you know, to load the transcript, for example, to find the transcript for a certain meeting, it does an NXT search for the string, I don't know. transcript or text or whatever. For, and it just has an open variable, transcript, list, whatever, find everything that's got that. And then load. So I don't know if you've looked at the search query language, but it's like a $a text. Yeah, because that's the guy who declares a variable, doesn't he? And then, yeah, because all of these files got an idea and all the transcript files have got the string, I don't know what it is, words or text or something in it. So it just searches for those files. Okay. Right. There you go. When you, like, is there an open thingy or what do you, like, what did you do to, like, how did you figure out that this uses NXT search? Like, is it? Well, it's in the code. find a search object and then search that string. I had to figure out how to do the same thing for the summary. That's how I had to understand how they did the transcript to do the summary myself. So did you have to write it in the way that they wrote it? Is that what you did? Yeah, just search for a specific string. Right. So you could just, you know, you could use that if you want to take the data out. out. I was just thinking that. Yeah. If you have a question about what the code means or where to find the code that you want to, you know, whatever you want to do, then just send me an email. I can explain it. Have you annotated your code? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Actually in the moment it's got a load of rubbish because the browser that I used, that they gave us, had a lot of extra stuff in and I haven't dared to throw out all the functions I have. Just in case. Yeah, just in case. mission critical yes so they're all in there yet still a lot of rubbish but it will be get will be chucked out right at the end i think coming commenting it out one bit at a time So basically we've got to go and do some work really. Yeah, that's true. The answer to that is a bit long and short. The weekend? The weekend's still four days off. Yeah, four. Still at the bottom of the mountain. us. I don't actually have that much to do. Well, should you want to explore any other? How's your quantifier raising? I can't remember what I'm supposed to do, by the way. Am I supposed to do the summarisation thingy-bop? No. was doing that you do oh really well i'll do that then these can be changed shall i do that then um i don't know it doesn't matter well you know if you want to i mean it's just you know play around with some extra stuff you have some time why not it shouldn't be too So what courses should I have picked? Are we not doing any courses? Yeah. Well, I'm doing communications, which I had one exercise, and I've done that like two weeks ago. That's in two weeks. Is that an informatics course? Yeah, it's nine courses or ten or something. And then I'm doing parallel programming languages and systems, which we had one exercise as well, and that's in Friday. Well, I'm not doing any background reading. I'm just kidding. This week is over. Are we having to win this course or something? Yeah. I don't know, is that about it then? No. Anything else we need to discuss? I don't know. Did we want to meet before we talk to Steve next week? Well, I don't know. We'll probably get some work done over the weekend, so I don't know. After D&LG or something, maybe just have a quick little update and just... Yeah, if you like. We can always decide then. Yeah, exactly. So what are you planning to do over the weekend then? Search. You're going to do the search? You're going to implement the search? Yeah. It couldn't be that hard. It'll be still a limited version of the next query. It won't be the whole thing. No. Like we can just decide sort of things that we do want to do. Actually, most of it's just dialogue acts. And what else was there? Summary. Strange. It's just that I think we need to set ourselves some milestones because otherwise, you know, weeks will go by. Yeah, it'll get behind schedule pretty quick, like you were saying. Well, actually, do we want to set a date for interim prototype? Specifically, a date? Well, you decide. I'm not doing much for that prototype. The progress report is June 23rd of February. So what's that, two weeks? Yeah, well how about we get it done by then? Ish, yeah. Then we can write about it in the interim report. Then we've got something to show. Just looking at my own deadlines. Oh, and the search interface. Maybe you should decide pretty early what kind of things you want to be able to search for. And then if you want you can give that to me and I'll build you a nice few tick boxes and drop down menus. Wasn't like... what you had now wasn't that pretty much what we agreed on or was it oh that's like that one that doesn't exist that's completely cut and pasted that does not exist nicely done though It's actually all these things are nicked from, you know, all these drop-down menus and tick boxes are nicked from Google. A screenshot of Google. That's that. I'm impressed. Maybe you should make it exist then. It's going to be a little difficult, more difficult. Yeah, I mean, I was going to, but, you know, the whole drop-down menus and stuff, What we want to search for is not quite agreed on we never agreed on what we want to be able to search for Yeah, do you want to you know just get together and think about the different types of search we could possibly do and then Then we could discuss that next meeting which options we really want to include That would probably involve researching the query language a bit as well to see what that can do It would be nice to meet up and you can sort of show us a bit what you know already so we don't sort of have to do all the work again of just like figuring out stuff. Oh, just like the basics? No, already? Just like accessing the corpus and stuff. Oh. Just like all that and seeing the code and just sort of how, just see the basics of what you've done. Like just get a quick look over and just. Take it for a tutorial. Yeah. You know, the class paths, all that sort of thing. Just say, okay. Okay, well, here's everything's basically set up. And then just jump right in. It's the code. Next week, sometimes. Yeah. In the morning. Yeah. Well, this time I'm dictating the time. If I'm not there, you can't do anything. The whole thing is, you know, something like that could happen any time. Because, you know, like my schedule is like a class, break, class, break, class. Yeah. It's not going to take an hour to spend it. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm thinking. So something like that. And then if I have a class, I can run off and do whatever. Pick a time. Yeah. Okay. Let me know whenever. Monday might be good. Yeah. Monday. What did you say? Yeah, this Monday. Just... Anytime. Monday afternoon. Not at noon or two or four. No, in between those. Yeah. Like one or three. Three o'clock? Actually, yeah. Possibly. Three's all right. It was one times the energy four, isn't it? It's four in. Unless you want to do it after. Yeah, that's an option too. Three is good though. But we have, whatever. What was your fare? We're 3.30. I just, yeah. Well, it doesn't matter for me. I mean, 3.30 in the computer room in here. And then we can just go straight in there though. Can you get in the front door? Oh, you haven't got a key, do you? Can none of you get in there? Well, we can get in through the car. There's computer rooms in here. the image messy computer. I've not found that yet. How about if you take a... Well, if you find me, I'll show you where... I'll let us all in there. We can look now afterwards. You do need to have a key for it. It's got a lock door. Yeah, somebody had asked me. She was asking Steve about that, whether we can get in there. Whether he's going to get us access into it. Into what? The computer room. Okay. It's crap. It's only got about four or five computers in there. It would do quite good for our job because it can all sit around. There's not many people in it. Is there a printer in there too? Yeah, there's a printer in there. And there's a photocopier with the code on it. Really? Yeah. We should photocopy our assignment. If we want to. I've got it on my computer. All the comments I'm thinking. So what time do we say? I just think it's better to do it afterwards than we have all the time. Rather than have half an hour and then we'll run out. Okay. As long as Dean Elgy doesn't go late. Hopefully it's not that man's, though. It won't matter. Actually, it's not even confirmed yet. What? She doesn't even know what she's talking about yet. Maybe it doesn't happen at all. It's reading week next week. It should be. Is it really? Well, it's supposed to be. Next week. It's week six next week. I don't think we have a reading week. I don't know. We have one class at least. When we, like, speech perception, we don't have any lectures. But I think we have, like, all other classes. Yeah, I don't think there was an official one. There's not a point in it. I don't think there was an official one. last semester. I think it was just a bank holiday, wasn't it? I think some classes did and some classes didn't. It was bizarre. They didn't really know what was going on. I think the undergraduates were totally... I think it was up to the professor whether they did it or not. Well, I don't feel like... Make them work. I think DIL will probably have one to make up for missing classes. What? DIL will probably... Yeah, we will probably have... No. last week okay let's meet monday yeah um i guess that's it was there anything else do anyone know you want to like take care of this or should i take care of it oh we trust you yeah i don't know if there was something i think he basically said the same things as in the comments if i could read it can you read that on the top one um i really want multiple windows from a single app from a single app but most will probably want to go with defaults Yeah, well, that was what he said. Yeah, I think your comments are basically the same as what you said. 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